On July 1st, Canada Day by the way, Dr. Henry Morgentaler was inducted into the Order of Canada! Cause for celebration? Yep! Except for those that dislike freedom and choice and women controlling their own bodies.
See his induction cheapens Wayne Gretkzy's Dad's order, apparently. Read on!
Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said Tuesday he supports the decision to award abortion crusader Dr. Henry Morgentaler with the Order of Canada.
Dr. Henry Morgentaler was named a member of the Order of Canada on July 1.
McGuinty, himself a Catholic, appears to be the first premier to address the issue publicly. His stance opposes that of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who has said he would have preferred to have seen the award bestowed on someone who unifies Canadians.
Fighting for freedom and personal liberties has never been a very Canadian thing, you see.
"I know that Dr. Morgentaler's been seen as a controversial figure, but I believe in a woman's right to make a very difficult decision," McGuinty said.
Yay McGuinty!
"And if she makes that difficult decision and chooses to have an abortion, I want her to be able to do that in a way that's safe, in a way that's publicly funded. So I know it's divisive, but I think it's important."
You rock, man! I'm going to move to Canada and become a citizen there just so I can start voting for you.
Gov. Gen. Michaëlle Jean named Morgentaler as a member of the order on July 1 for his services to women and for leadership in the fields of humanism and civil liberties. The controversial appointment was made on the advice of the independent Order of Canada selection committee.
McGuinty's comments came the same day an Ontario Catholic organization returned an Order of Canada medal to the Governor General to protest the decision to give Morgentaler the honour.
sigh
No good deed goes unpunished.
Order 'devalued'
Members of the Madonna House took the medal, along with a letter of explanation, to Rideau Hall, the Governor General's official residence in Ottawa.
The medal had been awarded to the organization's late founder in 1976.
"It is only after much prayer and consultation with our community, as well as with heavy hearts, that we are undertaking this action," Rev. David May, one of the Madonna House directors, said in a news release.
So they took a long, long time to decide specifically to behave like petulant children. Got it!
Catherine Doherty, who died at the age of 89 in 1985, was named a member the Order of Canada for "a lifetime of devoted services to the underprivileged of many nationalities, both in Canada and abroad," according to the Governor General's website.
Sounds really good!
She and her husband started Madonna House in 1947 in Combermere, about 180 kilometres west of Ottawa. The organization now counts 200 members and operates soup kitchens and retreats in seven countries around the world. All involved have taken vows of poverty, chastity and obedience.
May said he believes Doherty would support the organization's decision to return her award.
He prayed to her today and the table lamp bumped just like it used to when she was alive! QED!
"The order has been devalued in recent days, and we are confident that Catherine is spiritually present with us, affirming this gesture of love for our country and for the values which alone can sustain it. Without absolute respect for the gift of life, no society can survive," he said.
Isn't that great, flowery language for forcing a woman to suffer through a pregnancy and bare a child that she doesn't want?
Madonna House's decision to return the award came five days after Rev. Lucien Larré, a B.C. priest, returned his Order of Canada medal to protest Morgentaler's appointment.
And the beat goes on.
Morgentaler fought to legalize abortion
Morgentaler, a Polish Holocaust survivor who immigrated to Montreal after the Second World War, struggled for decades to have abortion legalized in Canada.
Sounds like a scumbag, doesn't he? He really devalues the Order of Canada!
He opened his first illegal abortion clinic in Montreal in 1969 and performed thousands of procedures.
A family physician, Morgentaler argued that access to abortion was a basic human right and women should not have to risk death at the hands of an untrained professional in order to end their pregnancies.
The brute! Giving young women proper medical care?!? Yep, that has devalue written all over it!
His abortion clinics were constantly raided, and one in Toronto was firebombed.
I'm always amazed that anyone can justify murdering someone who has been born as a reasonable response to making safe abortions available. I'm just saying.
Morgentaler was arrested several times and spent months in jail as he fought his case at all court levels in Canada.
On Jan. 28, 1988, the Supreme Court of Canada struck down Canada's abortion law. That law, which required a woman who wanted an abortion to appeal to a three-doctor hospital abortion committee, was declared unconstitutional.
Canada now has no federal laws governing abortion, and leaves regulation of the procedure up to individual provinces.
So the man who put his life on the line, risked being murdered, firebombed, and raided, went toe to toe with the federal government, spent time in jail because of it, and in the end won for the rights of freedom and privacy everywhere is given the highest honor Canada can bestow. Bravo!
Anyone who thinks that this man devalues anything needs a remedial course in the Inigo Montoya School for Terminally Dictatorially Clueless.
Congratulations, Dr. Morgentaler!
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Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Hagee on abortion
The Rev. John Hagee gives us his insights on abortion from his FAQ section. Yes, this is not an off the cuff answer, but rather the standard response he gives to everyone.
Q. Abortion is legal, but is it morally wrong? What about abortion in cases of rape or incest?
A. That no one should have the right to take the life of the unborn has been a principle of medicine from ancient times.
Really?!? I seem to have missed the great debates on this one in the Roman senate. And I’m missing the part where – and this might be some small bit of importance – we could actually abort a pregnancy in ancient times without insane risk to the woman.
If you want to make stuff up out of whole cloth, you really need to do better than this.
The Hippocratic Oath, first formulated as a sworn rule of conduct for doctors and physicians in ancient Greece some 2,400 years ago,
So you’re swearing to Apollo, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea now? You might want to stick with your religion. I hear that your god is a jealous god.
says, "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest such counsel; and in a like manner I will not give a woman a pessary to induce an abortion."
Good council! We have much better, safer, and easier ways to have abortions now. It’s all about that march of scientific progress.
Even then, four hundred years before the birth of Christ, people were clamoring for euthanasia and wanting to kill their unborn babies.
Yep, especially women who were raped.
If Hippocrates-a pagan physician who believed in all sorts of mythological gods and goddesses
Which is, of course, much worse than simply believing in one mythological god
-knew that it was wrong to take a life, what defense do we have today after the intervening two millennia of research and learning?
Is this a trick question? As stated, we have 2,000 years of understanding, progress, and abilities that Hippocrates did not have, a far better understanding of what life actually is, and far, far better ways to make choices about childbirth than a young girl failing to be able to run away from a marauding barbarian rapist.
When it comes to abortion, I believe God is pro-life.
Tell that to all the people who weren’t on Noah’s Ark.
Let me demonstrate that in Scripture.
Please do! It won’t mean a thing since that’s a made up book of stories, but it’s fun to watch you thrash about in it!
Speaking through Moses, God told his people: "I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live" (Deut. 30:19).
A clear quote directly talking about unborn children, obviously.
God created us as free moral agents, with the capacity to choose our course of action.
So God is Pro-Choice then!
But He certainly gave us explicit direction for making wise choices: "Choose life."
Again…he wants us to be able to choose!
The Bible places great value on children. They are the "heritage" of the Lord, His "reward" (Ps. 127:3).
Absolutely. It’s tough to brainwash other people’s kids, so it’s better to have your own.
The Bible also makes it clear that a child's life is to be protected, even while the child is in the mother's womb. Among the ancient Hebrews, penalties were prescribed against a person who injured a pregnant woman and thereby caused her to miscarry (Ex. 21:22-23).
Just like the abortion laws today.
God's Word says that if you hurt a pregnant woman and she loses the baby, you have to pay a penalty-not because it was a "blob of tissue," as abortion proponents would have us believe, but because it was a living human being.
Either that or the ancient goat herders who wrote the bible had never heard of genetics, modern abortion techniques, and accepted massive infant mortality rates as common.
Furthermore, God knows us, and even speaks to us, while we are in the womb. God called both Isaiah and Jeremiah to be prophets while they were still in the womb (Isa. 49:1, 5; Jer. 1:4-5). Would God name and ordain a meaningless blob? That unborn child in the womb is not a blob of flesh but a life sophisticated enough to have a relationship with God Almighty!
Judging from the sophistication of this argument, I’d say that you’ve set the bar way, way too low.
It is tempting to rationalize abortion in dire circumstances, such as pregnancy resulting from rape or incest. Statistically, such pregnancies are very rare.
True. But when rape or incest actually happen, rape or incest is 100% common.
If pregnancy does occur, the woman's trauma and guilt
Guilt?!? For being raped?!?
should not be compounded by the taking of innocent human life.
Rather we should torture a poor girl for her entire life by forcing her to raise a rapists’ child.
Abortion does not solve the problem of violence or abuse-it increases the problem.
Removing a woman’s decisions does not help her life, it destroys it.
We should punish the criminal, not the victim.
Agreed! Please start by not punishing the victim. That might help!
Q. Abortion is legal, but is it morally wrong? What about abortion in cases of rape or incest?
A. That no one should have the right to take the life of the unborn has been a principle of medicine from ancient times.
Really?!? I seem to have missed the great debates on this one in the Roman senate. And I’m missing the part where – and this might be some small bit of importance – we could actually abort a pregnancy in ancient times without insane risk to the woman.
If you want to make stuff up out of whole cloth, you really need to do better than this.
The Hippocratic Oath, first formulated as a sworn rule of conduct for doctors and physicians in ancient Greece some 2,400 years ago,
So you’re swearing to Apollo, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea now? You might want to stick with your religion. I hear that your god is a jealous god.
says, "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest such counsel; and in a like manner I will not give a woman a pessary to induce an abortion."
Good council! We have much better, safer, and easier ways to have abortions now. It’s all about that march of scientific progress.
Even then, four hundred years before the birth of Christ, people were clamoring for euthanasia and wanting to kill their unborn babies.
Yep, especially women who were raped.
If Hippocrates-a pagan physician who believed in all sorts of mythological gods and goddesses
Which is, of course, much worse than simply believing in one mythological god
-knew that it was wrong to take a life, what defense do we have today after the intervening two millennia of research and learning?
Is this a trick question? As stated, we have 2,000 years of understanding, progress, and abilities that Hippocrates did not have, a far better understanding of what life actually is, and far, far better ways to make choices about childbirth than a young girl failing to be able to run away from a marauding barbarian rapist.
When it comes to abortion, I believe God is pro-life.
Tell that to all the people who weren’t on Noah’s Ark.
Let me demonstrate that in Scripture.
Please do! It won’t mean a thing since that’s a made up book of stories, but it’s fun to watch you thrash about in it!
Speaking through Moses, God told his people: "I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live" (Deut. 30:19).
A clear quote directly talking about unborn children, obviously.
God created us as free moral agents, with the capacity to choose our course of action.
So God is Pro-Choice then!
But He certainly gave us explicit direction for making wise choices: "Choose life."
Again…he wants us to be able to choose!
The Bible places great value on children. They are the "heritage" of the Lord, His "reward" (Ps. 127:3).
Absolutely. It’s tough to brainwash other people’s kids, so it’s better to have your own.
The Bible also makes it clear that a child's life is to be protected, even while the child is in the mother's womb. Among the ancient Hebrews, penalties were prescribed against a person who injured a pregnant woman and thereby caused her to miscarry (Ex. 21:22-23).
Just like the abortion laws today.
God's Word says that if you hurt a pregnant woman and she loses the baby, you have to pay a penalty-not because it was a "blob of tissue," as abortion proponents would have us believe, but because it was a living human being.
Either that or the ancient goat herders who wrote the bible had never heard of genetics, modern abortion techniques, and accepted massive infant mortality rates as common.
Furthermore, God knows us, and even speaks to us, while we are in the womb. God called both Isaiah and Jeremiah to be prophets while they were still in the womb (Isa. 49:1, 5; Jer. 1:4-5). Would God name and ordain a meaningless blob? That unborn child in the womb is not a blob of flesh but a life sophisticated enough to have a relationship with God Almighty!
Judging from the sophistication of this argument, I’d say that you’ve set the bar way, way too low.
It is tempting to rationalize abortion in dire circumstances, such as pregnancy resulting from rape or incest. Statistically, such pregnancies are very rare.
True. But when rape or incest actually happen, rape or incest is 100% common.
If pregnancy does occur, the woman's trauma and guilt
Guilt?!? For being raped?!?
should not be compounded by the taking of innocent human life.
Rather we should torture a poor girl for her entire life by forcing her to raise a rapists’ child.
Abortion does not solve the problem of violence or abuse-it increases the problem.
Removing a woman’s decisions does not help her life, it destroys it.
We should punish the criminal, not the victim.
Agreed! Please start by not punishing the victim. That might help!
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